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  • All-brass Shotshell reloading notes
  • Flechette Notes
  • Rubber Buckshot Info
  • Win 452AA Powder Notes

 

 

Herters Reloading Die Instructions

(warning - files are large 1mb each!)

Picked up one of these and have had good luck with it so far.  It was made years ago (mid 60's perhaps?) and one thing I had to do to it was to lightly polish and open up the inner diameter of the sizing die's opening with a fine grit sandpaper, as sometimes the bases would get crushed due to the tight fit of the sizer.  Now they size successfully and I have yet to lose a base after the polish.

Since I picked up a Texan reloader I haven't used these all that much.

 

Shotgun roll crimpers

 

Information gleaned from: Shotgunworld Forums

Quoted Section:

I've made roll over tools in both .410 and 12g which work just fine.

I only have a small lathe and have used aluminum and brass for the bodies and either silver steel or piano wire as rollers, I've found a single roller running from side to side is just as effective and easier to make than a double roller which quarters the tool.

I'm also lucky enough to own some of the Lyman tools, no matter what the caliber the gap between the outer wall of the tool and the central island is 0.1". I've used this measurement in my own tools successfully. Working from the diameter of your cartridge you should be able to make up a tool to suit. The depth of the groove is 0.22".

This is a 12g roller with a single roller running form side to side, giving effectively 2 rollers, the central island is dished as I've made it for a friend who is loading slug loads. The shaft and central island are cut from brass bar, the outer collar is cut from a larger diameter bar and the two are retained by the roller acting as a pin.


Use a drill press not a hand drill.

Use Silicone lube spray or WD-40 as lubricant to roll crimp (some roll crimpers indicate no lube is required).  Note - some instructions indicate that WD-40 or other oils will seep to the powder and eventually neutralize it.  Makes perfect sense as the oils are meant to penetrate and that's exactly what would happen.  I've used silicone dry lube on mine and it seems to be fine, even after sitting for several weeks.  "Caveat Emptor"

Dust the wads with motor mica for for better smoother launch.

I've made a roll crimper from a scrap piece of brass from a hose fitting.  It seems to do a pretty good job on the Euro hulls I've roll crimped.  I need a better holder for the base, it can get a little tricky trying to hold the base firmly while avoiding scratches.


Buckshot Molds

Unlike normal molds, this uses a center pillar and shot is clipped from the pillar with snips that are shaped to the shot (to prevent flats). 

More conventional styled buckshot molds in various sizes can be found via forum member "skiesunlimited" on the Castboolits forum.  I *finally* managed to get some from skiesunlimited!  I'll share results.

 


 

Reloading Notes

Data copied from different sources...

 

Slugs

Quoted Per Lee Reloading: "The drive key slug can be safely fired through an Improved Cylinder choke".

The booklet "Shotgun Slug Loading & Field Applications" from Ballistic Products Inc. has info for slugs and round ball loads, including velocity and pressure tests.

The .715" round ball, without a wad shoots best in .730" barrels as long as the choke is not smaller than .003" less than the ball.

Improved hardness - cooked for one hour at 450-485 degrees and a cool water quench.  Should give a hardness scale of around 30BRN, somewhere up to 48 hours after heating.

 

Primers


Quoted Per Graf's: The Cheddite CX2000 is slightly hotter than the Win209.
Subtract 10% powder charge to maintain the same psi.

This is from the Cheddite site:

http://www.chedditeitaly.com/inneschi/index.asp?Innesco=1

CX2000:It is the high power primer internationally valid for all the kind of lead basis weight.
It is normally put on our 12 gauge primed empty cases.

Hulls

Federal; foreign = Straight wall hulls
Rem; Win = Tapered wall hulls

In general, you will find that tapered hulls will require less powder to gain added velocity
than do the straight walled hulls.

Note: Lyman book images are not actual size (printed slightly smaller).

 

Powder

Longshot powder has application in 2 3/4" loads.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/default.aspx

http://www.hodgdon.com/

 

Wads

When playing around with wads for slugs or balls, avoid those that have a rib inside the petals as they tend to shear off.  The best wad [we] have found for the Lee Key Slug is the Federal 12 ga 12S3. Use hard 20 ga nitros under the slug to adjust wad column height.

 

Loads

12 gauge 7/8 loads from Hodgdon website (current as of Nov 2009):
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Federal:
HS-6 | Fed. 209A | Fed. 12SO | 42gr | 9,300 PSI | 1550 fps

Euro:
HS-6 | CCI 209M | WAA12R | 34gr | 10,500 PSI | 1550 fps

Remington:
HS-6 | CCI 209M | WAA12 | 33gr | 10,700 PSI | 1500 fps
HS-6 | Win. 209 | 1-.135" Card + 1-1/2" Felt + 1-.135" CA | 40gr | 10,100 PSI | 1550 fps

Winchester:
HS-6 | Win. 209 | 1-.135" Card + 1-1 1/2" Felt + .135" CA | 47gr | 10,300 PSI | 1500 fps
HS-6 | Win. 209 | WAA12R | 33.5gr | 10,300 PSI | 1450 fps

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URALS-SHOP (custom Saiga-12 choke):

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showuser=2306


Wolf Shotshell Reload Data

12s0 = wads for straight-walled hulls (federal, fiocchi, etc) should work for Wolf; Max SAAMI PSI 11,500

[Wolf Hulls] are Cheddite hulls and load like any of the other straight walled euro hulls (Rio's, Mirage, Clever etc). You might get 3 reloads from them. They can be loaded with any of the wads designed for straight walled hulls like the DR XXL Orange, Fed 12S0 and clones CB 3118ar, CB 6100 etc. Purple Fiocchi data works well as does Federal. You'll need a euro type primer like Chedite, Nobel Sport, Fiocchi as the euro primers are slightly larger than our Win, CCI, Fed & Rem 209 as they would be a bit loose in the primer pocket.

Most of the time it is advisable to use a Cheddite, NobelSport, Fiochhi primer in these hulls. The primer pocket tends to be fuzz larger than what you would find in a Remington, Winchester, Federal and these "big three" primers tend to be loose or even fall out of these import hulls pretty regularly

 

Saiga-12 Slug Tests

Slug tests out of my Saiga-12 18" barrel with factory-style grooved flash suppressor

The goal is to establish a velocity baseline and use as standard loads to favor longer-range accuracy vs. sheer velocity.  Using 1 oz Lee Slugs as that's the die we have available (for now).  Ideal pie-in-sky scenario is 200-yard hits on deer and/or man-sized targets :)

The following chrono results are from my first two test runs of lee loads.  All loads follow published load data from Hodgdon and/or Lee where applicable.  Tests made in dry conditions with temps in the mid-60's-70's.

 

Best Load Results so far:

SLUG

Alliant Unique Data is baseline

  - Win AA hulls w/ factory fold crimp
 - Cheddite 209 Primers
 - 24.25gr Unique: Book @ 25gr * .95% = 24.225
 - WAA12 w/20 gauge card under slug
 - Wad height set to seat but not compress powder

Avg velocity 1207 FPS
Consistent velocities noted (All within 30 FPS)
Tight, accurate groups noted
Loads comparable to Lyman 1oz data

 

BUCKSHOT

  - Rem hulls w/ factory fold crimp
 - Cheddite 209 Primers
 - Unique: pending
 - RXP12/Cork w/ optional overshot card
 - Wad height set to seat but not compress powder

Avg velocity pending
Wad overshot card can help crimp uniformity

 

 

Raw data (from my field notes)

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Round 1:

HS6 | Federal 209 | Fold Crimp

Federal Remington Winchester
1189
1402
1400
1476
1398
1417
1450
1398
1343
1096
1260
1198
1158
1071
941
614

 

Round 2:

This time using only Wolf Hulls and Lee's Federal load data

HS6 | Cheddite 209 | Roll Crimp

Federal Cork  
1326
1457
1350
1521
1474
1482
1485
 

Velocity was slightly higher and there was a noticeable muzzle flash even with the flash suppressor.  Round 3 will use a 10% powder reduction to compensate for the Cheddite 209's higher burn.  Round 3 still had noticeable muzzle flash, and the shells seem to be charred enough to indicate the rounds are running hotter than an "average" load.  I will probably reduce the load even more.

 

Latest round testing was mainly for grouping - Using Wolf Hulls and reduced Lee Federal load data, the average groups were around 8-12" at 50 yards from my (unchoked) Saiga-12 19" barrel.  Used only the factory design flash hider.  Definitely suitable for use on a deer-sized target at "normal" shotgun ranges.  I'm going to see how well the rifled choke tubes increase grouping.

 


Load and slug notes

 

The so-called "Paradox" slugs designed around the premise to use conventional bullet designs in a smoothbore.  Slugs originally developed for British Victorian-era safari hunts.  Modern rifled bore shotguns can see some benefit from this slug design.

           

            

Crimping for autoloaders - note the curves of the shells here.  Some autoloaders need this "taper crimp" for reliable feeding.  So far my Saiga has not shown any feeding issues without it.  Some of the reloaded crimps have a "pucker" around the top due to the condition of the case; this may help remove those puckers.  Trimming the cases before crimping can reportedly also remove the pucker.

 


All-Brass Shotshell Reloading Notes

Information gathered from various sources... I have not personally tested any of the assertions, but it makes for interesting reading:

 

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=193833&hilit=magtech
Circle fly recommended over sized OSC’s and securing same with Fletch Tite
 All wadding from the Circle Fly
Devcon rubber cement or hot glue.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=192211&hilit=magtech
http://www.ch4d.com
http://www.rcbs.com
http://www.midwayusa.com
http://www.buffaloarms.com
If you are re-loading Magtech, with the large rifle primers, both Ch4D and RCBS make 1¼ x 12 dies, but RCBS' 'Cowboy Action' are considerably cheaper.
Everybody has shell-holders, but if you are loading RMC brass, with the 209 primer, CH4D has interchangeable decapping pins. Priming? I thumb mine in and use a 9/16" nutdriver to seat them, but once you have your shell-holder, any of the EZ primes should work.

CH4D's dies will 'roll crimp' an RMC case, or you can use hot glue or bathtub caulk to seal the over-shot card.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=189748&hilit=magtech
You Can you use Blackhorn 209 in shotgun shells volumetrically replacing black powder (EG Equal volume of 209 and lead shot.)

http://www.circlefly.com/
Magtech brass uses one size up, i.e. if you are shooting 12ga, order 11ga wads.
Also, DO NOT STRAY from the primer recommendation: yes, other kinds fit, but Large Pistol Primer is a command, not a suggestion.
It has been found  found that going two sizes up gives a tighter seal--10ga in the 12ga, 14ga in the 16ga. For 28 gauge, you can use 24ga wads. YMMV.
 
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=110374
For BIY wads use hole punches at a Harbor Freight Tools. They have a cheap set of 6 punches that covers all guages; 3/8" through 3/4".

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=296286
 
Crimping:
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?goto=lastpost&t=24643
"I like a hard roll crimp just like they used on the OEM cases. I had my size and crimp dies made for an old loaded I picked up so I am not familiar with any current production dies for the brass cases but in any case, the crimp needs to be rolled and rolled hard. I anneal the tops of the cases after every third firing to help prevent cracking from work hardening of the brass. I use the .025" OS card from Circle Fly which is made from a gloss finish paper but I still seal them with hot wax. Best I found is the wax blend used on the extended burn or slow burn, whatever they call 'em candles. These are the ones that are much harder than a normal candle and have a very smooth shiny finish almost like they are sprayed with polyurethane paint. They'll run you about 5 bucks for two but go a long way. Melt the wax in a small pan plenty far enough away from the loading room and apply by dipping the top of the case into the melted wax and holding for about 5 seconds. I then just wipe the excess off the crimp area on the edge of the pot any extra I just wipe with a rag so there is none on the outside of the case and stand upright to cool. Only need a very thin coat of wax and don't worry, you'll likely make a mess of the first few rounds till you get a technique that works for you."
 

What can be done is to use a reducing fitting or the RCBS crimper to put a SLIGHT turn-in merely to make inserting them in your shell belt easier.
Some recommend annealing just the top of the case in order to put that slight turn-in without splitting the mouth.  I have not performed either step myself.
 
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=19180.0

 


Flechette Rounds

Flechette rounds, I've read, were developed to "flush out" snipers hidden in trees in Vietnam.  Some recent attempts at building these as a home defense round have been made.  Here are the specs for the "new" flechette rounds - impressive stats!  While I don't think they will ever replace buckshot as a general-purpose home defense round, these could have some use as a low-recoil defense round.

We picked up a bag of the 1" flechettes at a gun show.  Figured we'd give them a try.  The rounds were loaded light and we weren't impressed.  The light loads seem to be too light to stabilize the darts and they tumbled into the target.  We'll have to experiment further with a heavier charge and possibly supporting the base with a wood spacer plug to keep the darts from digging into the wad.  Stay tuned.

 


Rubber Buckshot

Less-lethal rubber buckshot info.  It is not NON-lethal as it can still kill at close range.  When employed at intended ranges it is non-lethal.

Military designation M1013 non-lethal area target cartridge consisting of 18 .23 caliber rubber pellets at 900 FPS for a range of 5-30 meters.

Approximate starting loads are around 10 gr of Bullseye. 

 


 

Win 452AA Powder Notes

Dad still has a ton of this stuff and we're going to try to use it all up! :)

Information gleaned from various sources:

 

Its equivalent is indeed Trap 100 - they're the same powder. Hodgdon and Winchester both listed metallic cartridge data for it.  W452AA powder was made by a supplier which also sold it to Hodgdon who marketed it as Trap100. Titegroup is completely unrelated "with different grain structure and chemical makeup" to quote the Hodgdon expert.

 

Powder burn rates:

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#10 HP-38

#11 Win 231

#12 Trap-100

#13 Hi Skor 700-X

#14 Win 452AA

#15 Green Dot

 

Two other burn rate charts show it being between W231 and HP-38

 

http://www.frfrogspad.com/burnrate.htm

 

http://home.hiwaay.net/~stargate/powder/powder.htm

 

http://www.ramshot.com/powders/burnrate.php

 

 

 - An older WInchester data book and it lists WST in 12ga loads, 20ga 3/4oz loads , 38 Spl, 40 S&W, 10mm & 45 ACP loads.

 

 - 452AA is listed in Lyman's Shotshell Handbook 3rd Edition in the 12, 16 and 20 gauge sections. In the 12 gauge section it is used for 1 1/8 oz loads and is listed between Red Dot and Hi-Skor 700 (don't know if that placement in this list has anything to do with the burn rate or not). In the 16 gauge section it is listed with 1 oz loads between Red Dot and Unique. In the 20 gauge section it is listed as a7/8 oz load in the "lead spot" and just before Green Dot. Actually, there are very few listings for this powder in the entire book. I still have a pound of it from when I used to load "lead" shotgun (liked Unique and SR 7625 better) and until I read the above comments I had no idea where I could use it.

 - Note: Per Handloader’s Digest 1994, 13th. Edition, Scot 453 “performs almost Identically to Winchester 452AA”

 

 

1. .45 ACP (5" bbl) -

180g lead SWC, 5.6 to 5.7 gr, 1.250 OAL, chronos @ 1000 fps on a warm (80 degree) day.

 

2. .45 ACP (5" bbl) -

200g lead SWC, 5.2 to 5.4 gr, 1.250 OAL, chronos @ 900 fps on a warm (80 degree) day.

 

3. .38 Super (5" compensated, but not ported race gun, bar-sto fully supported bbl) -

115 g Win. FMJ HB bulk pack bullets, 4.5 to 4.6 gr, 1.263 OAL, chronos @ about 1100 fps on a warm (80 degree) day. Can be down loaded to about 3.5g using this bullet for lighter sub-minor power factor loads (like the steel challenge stuff). This is a very accurate mouse load in the .38 super.

 

 

I used 452AA for IPSC in the .45 back in the day, and it is a very good powder for that. Very accurate, soft shooting, and works a compensator well. I still use it in .38 super for minor loads...at least until the last 5 lbs. or so that I have is gone. I don't think I'd be inclined to try and make major power factor with 452AA in the .38 super as when overloaded it starts to show pressure signs (primer flow) pretty quickly. WW540, HS-6, or AA #7 (and now lots of others) are much better for making major in the .38 Super.

 

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452AA Shotgun Loads

 

452AA  12 gauge:

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"Standard 16yd trap load":

19.5gns 452AA

1.125oz payload

 

452AA is listed in the tenth edition Winchester Reloading Components Catalog and Ball Powder Propellant Loading Data, copyright 1985.  Per Winchester, this is the powder to duplicate the ballistics of 12 ga Double AA factory loads.

 

The load described as duplicating the factory Winchester 2-3/4 dram equivalent  AA plus Target Load is:

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1-1/8 oz shot

Win 209 primer

19.5 gr of 452AA powder

WAA12 wad in a compression-formed hull

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12 gauge, 1 1/8 oz

Win AA, (obviously these aren't the new HS) Hulls.

25 gr. 473AA*

Win 209 Primer

Win WAA12 (White) wad

1255 fps 9,500 LUP

 

*Reduce the powder to 23.5 gr. 473AA

All other components same gives you 1200 fps and 8,500 LUP

 

**The same two recipes work for the Rem RXP hulls but add 100 LUP pressure to each.  I believe those would be the old green ribbed hulls.

 

452AA 16 gauge:

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Winchester 2 3/4" hulls:

 

1oz shot

Win 209 primer

17.5 452AA

Rem SP16 wad

1165 FPS @ 10300 LUP

 

1oz shot

CCI 109 primer

17.5 452AA

Rem SP16 wad

1165 FPS @ 10500 LUP

 

 

452AA 20 gauge:

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AA CF hull

W-209 Primer

17.0 473AA

Rem. RXP-20 + 410 .135 card filler wad.

3/4 oz. Shot

1200 FPS @ 9,300 LUP

 

AA CF hull

W-209 Primer

18.0 grs. 473AA

WAA20 wad

7/8 oz. shot

1200 FPS @ 10,900 LUP

 

 

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Source:

Winchester reloading Components Catalog, 1985 edition:

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45ACP:

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185 grain FMJ, Wadcutter

Start: 4.0 gr = 686 FPS / 11,500 # pressure

 

Max: 4.5gr = 769 FPS /13,800 # pressure.

 

 

38 Special:

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148Gn WC

452AA 2.9Gns = 800fps / 12,500CUP

 

158Gn LSWC

452AA 3.4Gns = 845fps, 15,500CUP

 

 

Data for Trap 100

(Interchangeable with 452AA):

 

Source:

Hodgdon's 25th edition.

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.45 ACP *MAX* loads

--------------------------------

200 gr SWC

5.2 grains

834 fps 14,900#

 

230 gr Jacketed

5.1 grains

828 fps 15,800#

 

.45 Colt

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250 grain

6.4 grains

847 fps

 

.44 Special

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210 grain JHP

6.5 grains

954 fps 14,800#

 

225 grain JHP

5.3 grains

832 fps, 15,800#

 

215 grain lead gas check

5.3 grains

832 fps 15,800#

 

 

Source:  Practical Reloading Manual, 1993 by Nick Harvey,  First Edition :

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45ACP:

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185Gn WC,

452AA  Starting load: 4.4Gns = 750fps

452AA Maximum load: 5.0Gns = 850fps

 

200Gn SWC

452AA Starting load: 4.0Gns = 700fps

452AA Maximum load: 5.2Gns = 900fps

 

 

 

Speer manual #11, 1988 ed

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45 APC

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185g Speer TMJ Match

Start: 4.3gr = 757 FPS

Max: 4.7gr = 819 FPS

 

200g Speer TMJ Combat

Start: 5.0gr = 841 FPS

Max: 5.5gr = 898 FPS

 

200g Speer HP

Start: 5.0gr = 868 FPS

Max: 5.5gr = 916 FPS

 

200g FMJ or HP

452AA 5.0 start - 5.5 max.

 

200gr SWC

Start: 4.6gr = 730 FPS

Max: 5.1gr = 797fps

 

230gr Speer TMJ

Start: 4.7gr = 760 FPS

Max: 5.3gr = 825 FPS

 

260gr Speer HP

Start: 4.6gr = 712 FPS

Max: 5.0gr = 786  FPS

 

 

.45 Auto Rim

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200 Speer LSWC

Start: 3.5gr =  665

Max: 4.0gr =  743

 

 

.44 Magnum

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240 Speer SP, HP, TMJ

Start: 12.5gr = 1197 FPS

Max: 13.5gr = 1205 FPS

 

 

 

.41 Magnum

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220 Speer SP

452AA Start: 8.3gr = 1004

452AA Max: 9.3gr =  1052

 

 

357 Magnum

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148 Speer HBWC

Start: 3.0gr = 758 FPS

Max: 3.3gr = 812 FPS

 

158 Speer LSWC, LSWC HP

Start: 5.0gr = 960 FPS

Max: 5.5gr = 1004 FPS

 

110 Speer HP

Start: 12.5gr = 1434 FPS

Max: 13.5gr = 1488 FPS

 

125 Speer SP, HP

Start: 10.5gr = 1261 FPS

Max: 11.5gr = 1349 FPS

 

 

.38 Special

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148 Speer BBWC

Start: 2.8gr = 772 FPS

Max: 3.1gr = 802 FPS

 

148 Speer HBWC

Start: 2.8gr = 743 FPS

Max: 3.1gr = 787 FPS

 

158 Speer LSWC, LRN, LSWC HP

Start: 3.6gr = 763 FPS

Max: 4.0gr = 842 FPS

 

125g HP +P Load

Start: 4.3gr

Max: 5.1 gr = 968 FPS

 

110gr Speer HP +P load:

Start: 4.5gr = 934 FPS

Max: +P 5.4gr = 1072 FPS

 

 

.380 ACP

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95 Speer TMJ

Start: 3.3gr =  913 FPS

Max: 3.7gr =  1016 FPS

 

 

9mm Para

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124 FMJ

Start: 4.9gr =  1064 FPS

Max: 5.4gr =  1142 FPS

 

.38 Super

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95 Speer TMJ

Start: 6.5gr =  1316 FPS

Max: 7.2gr =  1336 FPS

 

 

.38 S&W

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110 Speer HP

Start: 3.0gr = 796 FPS

Max: 3.3gr = 857 FPS

 

125 Speer SP, HP

Start:  3.1gr = 792 FPS

Max: 3.4gr = 844 FPS

 

148 Speer BBWC

Start: 2.9gr = 703 FPS

Crimped in top lube groove: 3.2 736 FPS

 

 

.32 S&W Long

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90 Speer HBWC

Start: 1.6gr =  674 FPS

Max: 1.8gr =  737 FPS

 

.32 H&R Magnum

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100 Speer Plinker

Start: 4.4gr =  953 FPS

Max: 4.9gr =  990 FPS

 

90 Speer HBWC

Start: 2.3gr = 780 FPS

Max: 2.5gr = 811 FPS

 

 

 

.32-20 WCF

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100 Speer Plinker

7.3gr =  1424

8.1gr =  1476

 

110 Speer Varminter

6.8gr =  1313

7.4gr =  1339

 

110 Speer Spire Point, Round Nose

6.8gr =  1246

7.4gr =  1295

 

130 Speer HP, Flat Nose

6.4gr =  1159

7.1gr =  1217

 

 

 

 

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=38938&highlight=lee+7%2F8+slug

 

http://www.precisionreloading.com

 

http://www.ballisticproducts.com

 

http://slugsrus.com/store/handload.html

 

Pressures are usually less with roll crimp, but don't have to be, necessarily: how 'hard' you build your load and how new the hull is has a lot to do with it. However ... Gualandi has data showing to maintain the same pressure with a frangible disk or .030 card wad and a fold-crimp, you need +.75 to +1.5gn for the roll-crimp.

 

If your head is not hot, you're wasting your time until it heats up to 'can't hold it'. Turn a junk hull down to the brass to get the head hot.

 

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Lee slug diameter is .675" and when you put the slug in a good load:

 

Lee slug

Fed/Cheddite hulls

.135" or .200"inch felt/nitro in shot cup

Fed. 12SC

 

Snug fit for a smooth bore:

wall thickness of.060 + .675 = total

diameter of slug + wad for overall diameter of .735

 

Roll Crimp Info:

Use a drill press not a hand drill.

 

* use Silicone lub spray or WD-40 as lubricant to roll crimp

* dust the wads with motor mica for for better smoother launch.

* good straight wall hulls like Cheddite, Fiocchi, or Federal Gold Metal hulls work well

* the forcing cone can cause wad petals to buldge back or cut. Try polishing the forcing cones for a smoother launch

* you can cast the slugs with wheel weight and quench in cold icy water or heat treat them in an oven for 40 minutes to 300*

degrees and water quench to harden! Heat treated slugs that will not deform, break up, smash large bones and cause

massive tissue damage

 

**By increasing the meplat ( nose ) area....there is more energy deposit and larger cavity. Beyond that it is tailoring the load/slug to the gun and impact distance

 

Wad Info

 

7/8 oz = 382.8 grains

1 ounce = 437.5 grains

1.125 o = 492.2 grains

1.25 oz = 546.8 grains

1.50 oz = 656.25 grains

 

 

 

 

    remington RXP12 power piston

    1oz to 1-1/8oz target loads (x500 White )

    -wad has spines on petals = no slugs

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    federal 12s4

    1 1/4 oz loads

     - current item - (x500 Brown)

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    federal 12c1

    Two piece wad for Gold Medal, Paper - (x30 Red Base)

    1-1/8 to 1-1/4 oz loads

    Performs best in straight wall cases such as Federal paper or plastic and Fiocchi.

    Optimum load is 1-1/8 oz.

    Replacement: Claybuster Wads 12 Gauge CB3118-12AR (Replaces 12C1) 1-1/8 oz

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    5/16" plastic cup = .175" gas seal

    3/8" cork / fiber = .365"

     

    RXP12 wad recipes:

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    buckshot "0" low recoil load:

    Hull = Rem STS

    Prim = Win 209

    Powder = 26 grains Universal Clays (Hodgdon)

    Wad = Rem RXP12 w/ (1) 20ga 1/8" felt wad under pellets

    9 Pellets of 0 Buck (not 00) layered in 3 layers of 3.

    One .030" over shot card (optional)

    Standard folded crimp

     

    Hull: Winchester AA

    Primer: CCI 209

    Powder: 18-19 gr. 700X

    Wad: RXP12

    1-1/8 oz. #8shot

     hs6

    Hull: Winchester fold crimp

    Primer: cci 209

    Powder: 700x 19.5 grs

    Wad: Remington RXP12

    Velocity 1238 / pressure 9300 lup

     

    Alliant Variant:

    Hull: Rem STS

    Primer: Rem 209

    Powder: 24.5gn Unique

    Wad: Rem RxP12

    1-1/8oz #6 shot

    1310fps, 9700psi

     

    Hull: Rem STS

    Primer: Rem 209P

    Powder: 17.0 gr 700X

    Wad: Rem RXP12 wad

    1 1/8 oz shot: 1183 fps

     

    Rem Express w/intergral basewad

    30.0 grains SR 4756

     

    Rem Power Piston RXP12 with the petals removed

    1 x 12 1/2" fibre | Fold crimp |

    .690" pure lead ball

     

    Hodgdon 2001 reloading manual:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/19414427/hodgdon-reloading-manual

    2.75" rem/sts plastic shells | 7/8 oz slug | Clays powder | Fed. 209A primer | Activ TG-30 wad

    16.2 gr/7,700PSI-

    1200FPS |

    17.5 gr/9,200PSI-

    1250FPS |

    18.5 gr/10,300PSI-

    1300FPS

     

     

    HULL = Rem STS/Nitro / Win AA

    PRIMER = Win 209/CCI 209

    POWDER Hodgdon HS-6 38.0 grains

    WAD = CB 0178-12 or WAA12L or DR XXL-78

     

    SLUG = 7/8 oz (Lee Mold/Lyman Mold 475 grain)

     

    Velocity = 1550 f.p.s. 9900 p.s.i.